... or is there some other reason MS P&P seem reluctant to give any information about a possible RTM version?

Hi Joe -

GAT is far from dead... and sorry that we haven't made the roadmap clear. I just posted some details about our release plans on my blog - see http://blogs.msdn.com/tomholl/archive/2005/11/21/495538.aspx

thanks!
Tom Hollander
Product Manager
Microsoft patterns & practices

We'll still be branding the December release as a CTP, as it's still an unsupported add-on for Visual Studio and we haven't yet finalized how and when this functionality will become a core component of Visual Studio. However, this release will meet the same quality bars as any other patterns & practices deliverable, and we aren't planning on any more updates in the short term.

GAT will not depend on DSL - but both releases will include the same T4 bits.

Tom

Hi Joe -

GAT is far from dead... and sorry that we haven't made the roadmap clear. I just posted some details about our release plans on my blog - see http://blogs.msdn.com/tomholl/archive/2005/11/21/495538.aspx

thanks!
Tom Hollander
Product Manager
Microsoft patterns & practices

Thanks for the update.  Though I think that a FAQ on this forum or even better the MSDN GAT page would be a better place than a blog to publish info on the roadmap...

I agree that GAT looks important, and we want to start looking at it as a way to build our own guidance deliverables.  I had suspected there may be dependencies on DSL-related stuff.

Is the December release (and the "final" T4 component) stil a CTP or Beta?  And will the final GAT release therefore depend on the final DSL release?

We'll still be branding the December release as a CTP, as it's still an unsupported add-on for Visual Studio and we haven't yet finalized how and when this functionality will become a core component of Visual Studio. However, this release will meet the same quality bars as any other patterns & practices deliverable, and we aren't planning on any more updates in the short term.

GAT will not depend on DSL - but both releases will include the same T4 bits.

Tom